Beyond the Page Episode 31 — “Geoff Dyer: When Artists and Athletes Age, What Happens to Their Work?”
GEOFF DYER: WHEN ARTISTS AND ATHLETES AGE, WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR WORK?
When artists and athletes age, what happens to their work? Does it ripen or rot? As our bodies decay, how—and why—do we keep going? In this episode, John Burnham Schwartz sits down with the ever-original and wittily ironic Geoff Dyer to discuss the author’s own encounter with late middle age against the backdrop of the last days and last works of writers, painters, footballers, musicians, and tennis stars who’ve mattered to him throughout his life, with his latest book The Last Days of Roger Federer: And Other Endings.
Beyond the Page Episode 30 — Behind the Scenes of SVWC 2022
BEHIND THE SCENES: PROGRAMMING THE 2022 SUN VALLEY WRITERS’ CONFERENCE Anne Taylor Fleming and John Burnham Schwartz in Conversation
In this episode of Beyond the Page, we offer something fun and different, a lively conversation between SVWC Literary Director John Burnham Schwartz and Associate Director Anne Taylor Fleming about the upcoming 2022 conference. As the chief programmers, the longtime colleagues and friends will talk about some of the magical writers who are coming, from Evan Osnos and Heather McGhee to Ocean Vuong and Arthur Brooks, and chat about their selection process, including adding the wonderful PBS anchor Judy Woodruff to moderate some deep dives into the threats to democracy, here and around the globe.
Beyond the Page Episode 29 — “Susan Orlean Is a Really Serious Chicken Lady”
SUSAN ORLEAN: “SUSAN ORLEAN IS A REALLY SERIOUS CHICKEN LADY”
In this episode, John Burnham Schwartz talks with Susan Orlean, whose New Yorker articles across the last 30 years, along with books such as The Orchid Thief, The Library Book, her biography of the movie star dog Rin Tin Tin, and her latest collection of pieces, On Animals, have made her one of our most beloved and distinctive writers.
Beyond the Page Episode 28 – “Annette Gordon-Reed: Getting History Right”
ANNETTE GORDON-REED: GETTING HISTORY RIGHT
Is Thomas Jefferson to be deplored as a slave-owner who had a family with a young woman he owned or is he to be celebrated as one of the country’s most essential and gifted founders? Or, should he be both—condemned and revered?
That is the question Annette Gordon-Reed, the brilliant Harvard law professor, historian, and author of the Pulitzer prize-winning The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family, has long wrestled with. In conversation with SVWC associate director Anne Taylor Fleming, Gordon-Reed reflects on her evolving feelings about Jefferson and on the moral responsibility of the historian, and talks about her recent memoir, On Juneteenth, a stirring remembrance of growing up black in Texas. Hers is the rare wise and nuanced voice we need in today’s overheated culture.
Beyond the Page Episode 27 – “Tobias Wolff: The Art of the Story”
TOBIAS WOLFF ON THE ART OF THE STORY
In this episode of Beyond the Page, John Burnham Schwartz speaks with author TOBIAS WOLFF, renowned for his classic memoirs and short stories, for an intimate, wide-ranging conversation about life, literature, craft, and the never- ending mysteries and revelations that come from spending one’s time inhabiting the minds of others.
Tobias Wolff was born in Birmingham, Alabama, and grew up in Washington State. He attended Oxford University and Stanford University, where he now teaches English and creative writing. He has received the Story Prize, both the Rea Award and PEN/Malamud Award for excellence in the short story, the Los Angeles Times Book Award, and the PEN/Faulkner Award.
Beyond the Page Episode 26 – “Noah Feldman on How Lincoln Broke the Constitution”
NOAH FELDMAN ON HOW LINCOLN BROKE THE CONSTITUTION
In this episode, John Burnham Schwartz speaks with Noah Feldman, Harvard Law professor and renowned Constitutional scholar, whose groundbreaking new book, The Broken Constitution: Lincoln, Slavery, and the Refounding of America, takes us inside one of the more surprising realities of American History: in abolishing slavery and preserving our union, Abraham Lincoln was not adhering to the original Constitution of 1787, but rather tearing it up in order to save it through transformation. Feldman calls not only for a reassessment of Lincoln himself but also for a new look at America’s founding document and its place in our law, our politics, and ourselves.
Beyond the Page Episode 25 – “Elliot Ackerman on the End of the Forever War”
ELLIOT ACKERMAN ON THE END OF THE FOREVER WAR
In this episode of Beyond the Page, acclaimed novelist, journalist, and Marine Corps veteran ELLIOT ACKERMAN talks to former CBS News Vice President and Washington Bureau Chief Christopher Isham about the United States military’s calamitous withdrawal from Afghanistan and what comes after.
Beyond the Page Episode 24 – “Patrick Radden Keefe on the Fine Line Between Reporting and Storytelling”
Beyond the Page Episode 23 – “Mark Stevens and Annalyn Swan on the Private Life of Francis Bacon”
In this episode of BEYOND THE PAGE, host John Burnham Schwartz talks with Pulitzer Prize-winning authors MARK STEVENS and ANNALYN SWAN about their landmark biography, Francis Bacon: Revelations.
Beyond the Page Episode 22 – “The Education of an Idealist: U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power on Soft Power and Hard Lessons”
In this episode of BEYOND THE PAGE, former United States Ambassador to the United Nations, human rights activist, and Pulitzer Prize-winning author SAMANTHA POWER – interviewed in the lead-up to her pending U.S. Senate confirmation vote to be President Biden’s new administrator of USAID – discusses her distinctly American journey from immigrant to war correspondent to one of America’s leading foreign policy voices. Power transports us from her childhood in Dublin to the streets of war-torn Bosnia to the White House Situation Room and the world of high-stakes diplomacy, offering a compelling and deeply honest look at navigating the halls of power while trying to put one’s ideals into practice. Along the way, she lays bare the searing battles and defining moments of her life, shows how she juggled the demands of a 24/7 national security job with raising two young children, and makes the case for how we each can advance the cause of human dignity.
Beyond the Page Episode 21 – “Francis Lam’s Food For Thought”
In Episode 21, 2019 presenter FRANCIS LAM, the host of American Public Media’s award-winning radio show The Splendid Table, shares with us a few unforgettable food stories from his childhood, along with some of his current thoughts about the social experience of food during these pandemic times, the struggles and future of restaurants, and how certain tastes become identity markers for life.
Beyond the Page Episode 20 – “David Eagleman Gets In Your Head”
In Episode 20, SVWC Literary Director JOHN BURNHAM SCHWARTZ speaks with 2016 Conference presenter DAVID EAGLEMAN, who not only teaches neuroscience at Stanford University, but is also CEO and co-founder of New Century, a company that develops devices for sensory substitution. Eagleman is the author most recently of Live Wired: The Inside Story of the Ever Changing Brain, as well as The Brain, The Story of You, and many other books. He’s the host of the new Netflix documentary, The Creative Brain. And not only all that, but his short story collection Sum: Forty Tales from the Afterlives, inspired producer Brian Eno to write 12 new pieces of music, which they performed together at the Sydney Opera House.
In the conversation, we explore how Eagleman is a spirited and enlightening guide to so many important biological and moral issues underpinning our lives and behaviors from QAnon and cults to the wiring of Trump’s brain, to the relationship between identity, personality, biology, empathy, legal culpability and much, much more.
Beyond the Page Episode 19 – Barry Lopez: “Leaning Into the Light”
On Christmas morning 2020, the writer Barry Lopez died in Eugene, Oregon, surrounded by his family, after a long battle with prostate cancer. Widely honored as one of our greatest writers about the natural world—in nonfiction classics such as Of Wolves and Men, Arctic Dreams, and Horizon—for half a century Barry traveled the globe—High Arctic to Antarctica, Oregon to Kenya—bringing back stories etched in luminous prose that explored our profound connections to the diverse, fragile planet we inhabit.
Two weeks before his death, Barry received the first Sun Valley Writers’ Conference Writer in the World Prize, given to a writer whose work expresses that rare combination of literary talent and moral imagination, helping us to better understand the world and our place in it. This episode revisits Lopez’s 2019 talk at the Sun Valley Writers’ Conference and his true dedication to telling the stories of our world.
Beyond the Page Episode 18 – Madeline Miller: “Why Homer’s Wisdom Has Never Been More Relevant”
In this episode of Beyond the Page, host JOHN BURNHAM SCHWARTZ talks with novelist and classicist MADELINE MILLER, author of The Song of Achilles and Circe, about why Homer’s wisdom has never been more relevant, and why she decided to finally give a witch who changes men into pigs the starring role in her own drama.
Beyond the Page Episode 17 – Roger McNamee: “The Incompatibility of Social Media and Democracy”
In this episode, SCOTT MOYERS the publisher of Penguin Press, sits down with ROGER MCNAMEE, the noted tech venture capitalist, early mentor to Mark Zuckerberg, and Facebook investor, who went from being a founding supporter of the world’s biggest and most profitable social media company to becoming one of its most influential critics. Facebook’s business model, its vision of itself as a news and information platform devoid of social responsibility, its use of data-mining and AI, its pervasive influence on our culture and politics. As you’ll see, there’s nothing McNamee isn’t willing to discuss, including his own adventures at the birth of big tech. McNamee’s new book, Zucked, is available now.
Beyond the Page Episode 16 – Isabel Allende: “The Stories of Refugees Known and Imagined”
In this episode, internationally beloved author Isabel Allende sits down virtually with her good friend, PBS/NewsHour’s Jeffrey Brown, to discuss her latest novel, A Long Petal of the Sea. Along the way, she brings us closer to the upheavals of the Spanish Civil War; Chile during Pinochet’s military dictatorship; the stories of refugees known and imagined; and, of course, the art of fiction.
Beyond the Page Episode 15 – Ayad Akhtar: “Finding a Voice to Address the American ‘Us'”
In this episode, SVWC Literary Director JOHN BURNHAM SCHWARTZ talks with his good friend, Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright and novelist AYAD AKHTAR, about his just-published new novel Homeland Elegies – “passionate, disturbing, unputdownable,” Salman Rushdie says – about being the American, Midwestern son of immigrant doctors from Pakistan; about “otherness” and Islam and Trump and capitalism and identity and race and, ultimately, the state of this country he calls home.
Beyond the Page Episode 14 – Susan Orlean: “On the Eccentric Nature of Curiosity”
In this episode of Beyond the Page, host JOHN BURNHAM SCHWARTZ talks with SUSAN ORLEAN, longtime New Yorker staff writer and bestselling author of The Library Book and The Orchid Thief, about libraries and memory, about the eccentric nature of curiosity, and about the journalistic surprises and personal satisfactions of finally writing her own story.
Beyond the Page Episode 13 – John Burnham Schwartz & Larissa MacFarquhar: “The Red Daughter”
In his sixth novel, The Red Daughter, novelist (and regular Beyond the Page host) JOHN BURNHAM SCHWARTZ imaginatively inhabits the life of Svetlana Alliluyeva (1926–2011), the only daughter of Joseph Stalin, who in his three decades as the tyrannical ruler of the Soviet Union was responsible for the deaths of more than 20 million people. At the height of the Cold War, Svetlana became the most important Soviet citizen ever to defect to the West, arriving in New York to throngs of reporters and a nation hungry to hear her story. By her side was a young lawyer sent by the CIA to smuggle her into America. That lawyer was John Burnham Schwartz’s father.
In this episode of Beyond the Page, moving between excerpts from his talk at the Sun Valley Writers’ Conference and a conversation with New Yorker staff writer LARISSA MACFARQUHAR, Schwartz recreates the story of an extraordinary, troubled woman’s search for a new life and a place to belong.
Beyond the Page SPECIAL Episode 12 – Roger Wilkins: “Bearing Witness”
In 2002, the late civil rights champion ROGER WILKINS gave one of the most memorable talks ever given at the Writers’ Conference.
Roger’s great grandfather was a slave. Two generations later, Roger’s uncle, Roy Wilkins, became the legendary leader of the NAACP for over two decades. Three generations removed from the Mississippi slave fields, Roger Wilkins played pivotal roles in the civil rights advancements of both the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, and later, as author, columnist, and professor, became a powerful voice of advocacy and hope for Black people in America.
In the wake of the police killing of George Floyd and other Black Americans, and in the midst of the Black Lives Matter movement, the words of Roger Wilkins, who died in 2017 at the age of 85, have never sounded more relevant, or vital, to the conversation about what kind of great nation America was meant to be, and must still become.
Beyond the Page Episode 11 – George Packer: “How Do We Wrap Our Arms Around America?”
As the country reeled under the weight of one shock after another—first the pandemic, then levels of mass unemployment not seen since the Great Depression, and most recently an unprecedented wave of protests against racism and police brutality—the June issue of The Atlantic magazine ran a cover story with the provocative title, “We Are Living in a Failed State.” The author was GEORGE PACKER, one of the preeminent long-form journalists writing in the US today.
His last three books—The Assassins Gate about the invasion of Iraq, The Unwinding about the economic and social transformation of America since the 1970s and Our Man, a biography of the larger than life American diplomat, Richard Holbrooke—each in its own unique way, tried to provide a window into the big challenges America has faced, both abroad and at home, over the last 25 years. In this episode, George talks with LIAQUAT AHAMED, a board member of the Sun Valley Writers Conference about where we are as a country, how we got here, and how a writer of nonfiction like him is able, using techniques drawn from the great novelists, “to wrap his arms around America.”
Beyond the Page Episode 10 – Alexander Maksik: “Caring For an Ill and Aging Parent From a Distance”
What happens, what emotional threads get pulled, when halfway around the globe a father gets sick from Covid? In an evocative personal essay for The New Yorker, “My Father’s Voice from Paris,” novelist ALEXANDER MAKSIK faces those questions and all the attendant thoughts and feelings provoked by them. Living in Maui with his wife, the novelist Madhuri Vijay, and his six-month-old daughter Ela, Maksik’s only contact with his father was through the phone. He listened as his father grew weaker knowing he could not go to him. It is both a story for our time and a timeless one about a son’s love for a father. In this episode of Beyond the Page, Xander talks with ANNE TAYLOR FLEMING, associate director of the Sun Valley Writers’ Conference, about the essay, about fatherhood and about Paris, the city both father and son know intimately.
Beyond the Page Episode 9 – Dani Shapiro: “The End of Secrets: Family History in the Age of Bio-Ethics”
In the spring of 2016, author DANI SHAPIRO received the stunning news through a genealogy website that her father was not her biological father. Her memoir, Inheritance, captures her urgent quest to unlock the story of her own identity, a story that had been scrupulously hidden from her for more than 50 years. It caused her to rethink everything she knew about herself, her roots, her family, the ground underneath her. In this episode of Beyond the Page, she talks with physician and author ABRAHAM VERGHESE about living in a time in which science and technology are uncovering long-held secrets and about the capacities of the human heart to contend with the consequences of what we discover.
Beyond the Page Episode 8 – Frank McCourt: “The Underlying Story”
In 1996, (a 66-year-old) retired New York City public school teacher named FRANK MCCOURT published his first book, a memoir about his brutally impoverished Irish Catholic childhood in the slums of Limerick. If ever there was a “rags-to-riches” story in publishing, Angela’s Ashes was it: The book would go on to receive the Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Critics Circle Award, sell more than four million copies in hardcover alone, and become a film directed by Alan Parker. At the age of 66, Frank emerged almost overnight as one of the most celebrated authors in America.
But if you knew Frank, you knew two things, at least: First, he never took anything at face value, including, and perhaps especially, his own extraordinary, late-blooming success. And second, for all the joy and gratitude he took from his unexpected good fortune, he refused to ever completely shed his (the) core of (coal-dark) anger that remained from (his childhood of poverty) growing up in terrible poverty. That he was able to so often turn that anger into unforgettable humor was just one of the many reasons why he was such a gifted writer. As he himself tells us, however, before becoming that writer, he somehow had to learn what he still needed to know. And in order to do that, he first had to become teacher.
Beyond the Page Episode 7 – Edwidge Danticat: “Literary Immigration: A Conversation with Edwidge Danticat”
This episode is an edited recording of novelist Edwidge Danticat at the Sun Valley Writers’ Conference. In one way or another, from the moment she left Haiti to settle in Brooklyn, New York, at age 12, Edwidge Danticat has been writing stories (prize-winning novels, memoirs, and essays) about the experience and effects of immigration. In conversation with Jeffrey Brown of the PBS NewsHour, she talks about the ways that first seismic journey in her life has shaped all the journeys she has lived and written since.
Beyond the Page Episode 6 – Mitch Landrieu: “A White Southerner Confronts History”
This is an edited recording of New Orleans mayor Mitch Landrieu speaking at the Sun Valley Writers’ Conference in 2019. When Landrieu addressed the people of his city in May 2017 about his decision to take down four Confederate monuments, including the statue of Robert E. Lee, he struck a nerve throughout the nation—his brave and inspirational speech has now been heard by millions.
As he described that experience in his powerful memoir In the Shadow of Statues—and as he tells it here—Mayor Landrieu’s relationship to the question of race in America is deeply personal and complicated, and begins for him with his own family’s history, and the history of the city of his birth.
Beyond the Page Episode 5 – Alexandra Fuller: “Memories of an African Childhood”
This episode is an edited recording of writer ALEXANDRA FULLER at the 2012 Sun Valley Writers’ Conference. Fuller, whose two best-selling, award-winning memoirs about her parents and her childhood in southern Africa, Don’t Let’s Go to the Dogs Tonight and Cocktail Hour Under the Tree of Forgetfulness, indelibly evoking a landscape of love, loss, longing and reconciliation, discusses both what she has found in the process of writing those books, and what she has lost.
Beyond the Page Episode 4 — Ayad Akhtar: “Muslims in America: A Playwright’s Compendium of Characters”
No playwright has challenged our perceptions of Muslims in America as boldly, and with such dramatic vigor, as has AYAD AKHTAR, the Pakistani-American playwright and author, who won the 2013 Pulitzer Prize for Drama for Disgraced, the most produced play of the 2015-2016 season.
Beyond the Page Episode 3 — Min Jin Lee: “On Speaking and Power”
MIN JIN LEE speaks about the struggle she found in finding her own voice, first as a profoundly shy Korean girl growing up in America and eventually as the exceptional novelist she became. The speech is based on The New York Times essay Lee wrote, “Breaking My Own Silence.”
Beyond the Page Episode 2 — David Grossman: “To the End of the Land”
In this episode, we hear from the great Israeli novelist DAVID GROSSMAN, widely regarded as part of the collective liberal conscience of Israel, about his masterpiece To the End of the Land.
Beyond the Page Episode 1 — Anthony Doerr: “The Beautiful Art of Failure”
Welcome to the SVWC podcast Beyond the Page: The Best of the Sun Valley Writers’ Conference. In a world obsessed with success, Pulitzer-Prize winning novelist ANTHONY DOERR has maintained an abiding belief in, and a creative need for, the bracing tonic of failure. In a talk filled with humor and hard-won wisdom, he discusses how being willing to risk failing at stuff to realize one’s original vision is the writer’s most essential job.